2017 Frewheeler

Jeeze, they only been making 8 valve engine for 100 years :)

OK, I am confused....V-Twin, production motors up and until the M8 have 2 valves per cylinder and two cylinders.....that is a total of 4 valves.........

Now, has HD made 4 valve per cylinder prototypes....Oh Yah! There are a few on the motor wall at their museum..... In fact, some of those prototype motors they have on display can make you mouth water if you study them for a bit.....

Springman
 
OK, I am confused....V-Twin, production motors up and until the M8 have 2 valves per cylinder and two cylinders.....that is a total of 4 valves.........

Now, has HD made 4 valve per cylinder prototypes....Oh Yah! There are a few on the motor wall at their museum..... In fact, some of those prototype motors they have on display can make you mouth water if you study them for a bit.....

Springman

"JD" John, who has left us, owned an 8 valve 'JD' he said was a factory board track racer. However, the recent "Harley and the Davidsons" series says that H-D boycotted board track racing so ???. Frankly, I'll believe John. He said that Willy G sent some people out who studied and measured his bike because records had been lost during the AMA years. Then H-D announced that Willy G had the only 'authentic' 8 valve JD and that john's wasn't "authentic' because it had a transmission but John had paperwork that said otherwise so again ????. So, was John's JD a prototype or ???.

John and Lance also rode JDs with 'Flexi' hacks from SoCal to Sturgis and back but they were 4 valves.
 
"JD" John, who has left us, owned an 8 valve 'JD' he said was a factory board track racer. However, the recent "Harley and the Davidsons" series says that H-D boycotted board track racing so ???..

Too bad my father passed away, I am sure he would know about the 8 valve. He used to race on boards and worked for HD. After WWII he was sent to Borger, Texas to open a motorcycle shop to keep the surplus Harleys and Indians running for the workers at the Phillips refinery. He then was sent to Joplin, MO to get a shop up and running then back to Borger.

He was born in 1920 and his father, born in 1887, always had some type of motorcycle. I have a picture of my grandfather on a motorcycle that has Eagle on the tank which was taken when he was a young man. I wish I had asked for more information on it before my daddy passed away. I don't know if Eagle is the brand or the model name.
 
"JD" John, who has left us, owned an 8 valve 'JD' he said was a factory board track racer. However, the recent "Harley and the Davidsons" series says that H-D boycotted board track racing so ???. Frankly, I'll believe John. He said that Willy G sent some people out who studied and measured his bike because records had been lost during the AMA years. Then H-D announced that Willy G had the only 'authentic' 8 valve JD and that john's wasn't "authentic' because it had a transmission but John had paperwork that said otherwise so again ????. So, was John's JD a prototype or ???.

John and Lance also rode JDs with 'Flexi' hacks from SoCal to Sturgis and back but they were 4 valves.

Sorry, I thought we were talking about HDs and their normal production examples, not the obscure.....

Springman
 
Change

From what I was told at my dealer, the cat was moved to the back of the back (or at least further back than it was) which should help with the heat problem on your right leg. Before, it was right next to your right leg. Combine that with the other changes in the M8 and it should help with heat problem. I hope so because that's my only complaint with my FW.
 
OK, motor aside, what else has changed on the 2017 FLRT?

Springman

all-new double bending valve front suspension

More Passenger Comfort- Positions for the rear exhaust pipe and catalytic converters provide a more comfortable ride.

According to totalmotorcycle.com

Of course they also say this "Narrow Primary- The narrower primary drive gives your left foot a straighter, easier reach to the ground, for an easier lift off and more control at stoplights."

Kind of funny if you thin about it.;)
 
....Of course they also say this "Narrow Primary- The narrower primary drive gives your left foot a straighter, easier reach to the ground, for an easier lift off and more control at stoplights."

Kind of funny if you thin about it.;)


Yes, that is sort of Funny......:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Springman
 
all-new double bending valve front suspension

More Passenger Comfort- Positions for the rear exhaust pipe and catalytic converters provide a more comfortable ride.

According to totalmotorcycle.com

Of course they also say this "Narrow Primary- The narrower primary drive gives your left foot a straighter, easier reach to the ground, for an easier lift off and more control at stoplights."

Kind of funny if you thin about it.;)

Dont want my valves to bend
Good to hear the exhaust is away from my squeeze
And at least my shoe size 15 won't leave marks on the primary cover !
 
Yup @ 55 MPG and Way more power and sound

Man, you've gotta share with us how y'a getting 55 mpg on your new Freewheeler...the company rates it at City/Hwy combined at 43, and you know that's a stretch. The estimate for my 15' was 39, but out in the real world was about 32 to 34 on a good day. :Shrug:
 
Man, you've gotta share with us how y'a getting 55 mpg on your new Freewheeler...the company rates it at City/Hwy combined at 43, and you know that's a stretch. The estimate for my 15' was 39, but out in the real world was about 32 to 34 on a good day. :Shrug:

I dunno, I ride it @ 70-75 and it comes out to%% on the nose
I have knocked out the phoney flower petal centers of the baffles and rerouted the head breathers to the atmosphere
This M8 hauls the mail my 14 Freewheeler got 43 on the nose if did not twist the wick too hard

The MOCO advertises foot note #5 your results may or may not be different with mileage
 
mpg

Jack
I thought the freewheeler came out in 2015, where did you get a 14 with that kind of gas mileage? I have a 2015 and the best I have ever got is 39mpg and that at 50 mph which is the speed limit in most of British Columbia.
 
Okay so it's not just me...I thought I was losing my mind. First with the whole mpg deal, and second the 14 Freewheeler prototype :Shrug:
 
So I'm at Summit Point raceway and a guy is telling me that his buddy is turning 1:26 laps. I'm dubious because the class winners are only doing 1:30+ and his buddy isn't among them. So I watch. First lap he clocks 1:34 then resets and restarts his watch. Sure enough, next lap is 1:29. At one point he says something to a coworker before resetting & restarting his watch. Yup! A 1:26 lap.


No, I'm not pirating the thread. I suspect that 55 MPG has something in common with the 1:26 laps.:)
 
OOOOPS, I bough mine in 14, I now have a 17 M8 and it comes out to 55 mpg on the nose
I know alot of guys will say that aint right but this one does, maybe I should take it back and complain :laugh:
 
OOOOPS, I bough mine in 14, I now have a 17 M8 and it comes out to 55 mpg on the nose
I know alot of guys will say that aint right but this one does, maybe I should take it back and complain :laugh:

Heh! When a co-worker who was a meticulous record keeper bought an econo-car the guys began putting an extra couple gallons of gas into it every day. He was logging 60+ MPG! Then after the 1st service they stopped and his mileage dropped to 35. He ended up suing the dealer.


My 17 M8 got 37 the two times I measured it but only has 1500 miles on it so will prolly do better.
 
OOOOPS, I bough mine in 14, I now have a 17 M8 and it comes out to 55 mpg on the nose
I know alot of guys will say that aint right but this one does, maybe I should take it back and complain :laugh:

It's all good Jack, I can only wish for such great mileage from my 15'. That would be funny if y'a did though...:D
 

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