2014 gps sucks!!!

[scuba1954]

I have been using Garmin for many many many years. I had a zumo 660 that I have been using for the last 5 years and loved it. Then I traded in my 12 Road glide Ultra in Sept. for a 14 Tri Glide. I made the mistake of thinking hey now I have built in GPS I will sell my zumo. BIG MISTAKE!
If the Harley GPS was my first experience with gps then I wouldn't know better and would be happy. This GPS is not user friendly and does terrible on auto trip routing and even trying to use pre planned routes are horrible.
Let me explain. On the Garmin if you lay out a pre planned trip that starts from your home and goes to lets say Point "B" and you change your mind and go to a friends house to pick them up and start your planned trip their this is where things go bad. When you are at your friends house and select the pre planned route an start out the gps keeps making you go back to the beginning of your pre planned route which would have been your home. Even if you picked up the route say a few miles down the road because your friend lived a little closer to Point B it still keeps telling you to turn around. Garmin would not do this. If you started your pre planned trip at your friends it would ask you if you wanted to navigate to the beginning of the route or your find your way to the route and it would continue from there.
Second downside. I was with a group a people and we had rode a hundred miles and had lunch. It was time to go home and I was not leading so I chose the fastest to take me home. The default was set to quickest. It showed we would be home by 9:30pm. Off we went, the leader took a few different turns and the GPS did fine with re routing and kept saying 9:30pm arrival. Then this is what ticked me off, the leader was going his own way and we missed a turn that the GPS said and when it re routed it then said we would arrive home at 8:30PM one hour sooner. If the GPS was supposed to route me the quickest way home why didn't it pick the way we went with the missed turn. If I went the GPS original way it would have been an hour longer. This re routing happened quite a few times on the way back and each time the new way was getting us home faster. This NEVER happened on any GARMIN that I had. There might have been a 5 or 10 minute adjustment on a re route but not an hour. The Harley GPS almost seems not to be using the default Quckest routing but it wants to use the Twisty routes.
I have been looking for a new Garmin or maybe TomTom for my Trike!!!
Just my two cents

 

[trikermutha]

we been reading a lot of complaints on the 2014 GPS..Hope they solve it with a software patch off there web site??

Good Luck!!

 

[scuba1954]

we been reading a lot of complaints on the 2014 GPS..Hope they solve it with a software patch off there web site??

Good Luck!!

I called HD in regards to the pre planned trip routing taking you back to the beginning. His suggestion was to put in more waypoints (only can use 9, Garmin allows 1000) and then when leaving from another place choose the next waypoint from your list. This is not user friendly! He acted like it was not a big deal. That did not give me much hope of a firmware update. The other thing that you cant do is to upload POI's to the Harley. I use www.phantomalert.com in my zumo to alert me of speed traps, dangerous curves, red light cameras, etc. Just another reason to re think buying another device for my trike. I can use my phones Navi but the screen is too small to see and if the sun shines on it forget any chance of seeing it.

 

[msocko3]

I haven't met a factory offered GPS I've liked yet. A couple years ago when I rented a 2012 Goldwing with the built in GPS I figured I'd give it a try to see if I wanted it on the new bike I was going to buy. I didn't care for the interface, it took me a different route to the same destination compared to my 550 Zumo, the route it took was way longer. Another draw back to a factory installed GPS is when they break, its going to be $$$ compared to an add on GPS such as the Zumo.

 

[RickDeVon]

We have been looking at trikes and we are going to see if they will give us a discount to swap a standard radio for the gps one from the trike....dealers around here are upgrading 14 ultras and standard st glides with the gps system...so I should be able to get them to do a swap......

 

[screwball]

May be wrong, but the 'hole' in the dash is larger for the GPS radio. I would doubt if anyone is making an adapter face or kit for that. Good Luck.

About the GPS units, wife and I installed the Kuriatkyn (I know that is spelled wrong, but you know what I mean) gas cap cover that has an adjustable mount that you can attach a GPS, MP3, or a kitchen sink. Works great.

 

[Woody]

is there a map update for the harley GPS?

 

[trikermutha]

http://www.harley-davidson.com/content/h-d/en_US/home/owners/infotainment/software-downloads.html

 

[Ozarkryder]

I am not sure why folks pay for a pre-installed GPS on any vehicle.

Once it is in you are stuck with it, but with an aftermarket GPS like a Garmin, Tom Tom,etc there are many models so you can pick and choose the features you want, it is easy to change to a different version, and if it goes south you aren't without the vehicle while repairs/replacements are made. I can take my Garmin vehicle to vehicle,(1 GPS goes with me on 3 motorcycles and 2 cars) and with aftermarket GPS units most seem to have frequent map updates included in the purchase price, (My Garmin Nuvi 1450LMT has 4 updates per year) and I don't have to pull over and stop to work the controls, though it is a good idea to do so, I hate being forced to. If you only keep a vehicle a few years the GPS won't go obsolete, but if you plan on keeping your ride a while it may be expensive to upgrade.

A built-in unit looks sleek and "factory" because it is, you don't have stuff hanging from your handlebars or other brackets, and you can always find a near-by dealership (at least Honda and Harley pre-load their dealserships as waypoints, I believe) and they are already integrated into your intercom system.

YMMV, and almost cretainly will, but to me the benefits of an aftermarket GPS outweigh the benefits of a factory unit. I'll keep hanging one off my RAM mounts on the bikes and in the cars.

 

[Trent]

I agree with Ozarkryder above... I use a Garmin GPS everyday for work in my Truck,, sometimes putting in 20 to 30 addresses a day. I wear out the screens on them in less than a year. Don't even bother to download any free updates.

I like my $129.00 4.5 inch Garmin mounted with a RAM to my left side handle bar and plugged into the cig lighter. I shortened the power cord so it is not flapping around in the wind. I barely have to take my eyes off the road to glance at it verses looking down and trying to study a built in screen. I can program it while rolling very easily and when I already know where I am going, switch it to the digital speedometer mode. Then I have a 2" high very accurate speed reading right there which comes in very handy. I keep a coupla sandwhich baggies in the top left windshield bag to slip over the unit if I get into some bad rain. I can still see it plainly and program it with a baggie on it too. Does not matter if I can hear the girl talking or not,,, it is so easy to glance at that I can follow and read the directions with no problem.

The one downside is that my BOB [Babe On Back] can easily see the digital speedometer mode and will remind me that we are in no big hurry.

 

[Ozarkryder]

The one downside is that my BOB [Babe On Back] can easily see the digital speedometer mode and will remind me that we are in no big hurry.

I've been there, too. I told Gloria the earth rotates about 1,000mph, so the GPS is taking that into account.

For some reason, she didn't buy it.:Shrug:

 

[GARYD]

I also think the H-D gps is a POS.
I finally found a way to save addresses(took awhile, but dealer showed me where I was going wrong). There is no where in the manual that shows you a step by step direction on how to save addresses.

So far my unit has froze up on me 3 times.

I don't use way points. What I do is put in all my ABC destinations individually. When I get to my first one I take a picture then tap the next closest destination - go there/take picture - tap next closest destination etc etc. Can't do that on the H-D unit. It lists addresses alphabetically = that doesn't help me one bit. Thanks Harley - you %$#@!!!

Thank God I kept my Zumo 660. I mount it to the gas lid with the suction cup(in 4K miles and very bad roads) it has never come loose. I do have a small bungie cord as a back up holder - just in case.

With the Zumo you can go quickly to a point on a highway or anywhere else for that matter, and designate it a destination. With the H-D you can do that too, but it takes a very very very very long time to do it and very complicated. Did I mention it takes a long time?


On my last trip I used my Zumo as the main unit 99% of the time. I'm going to the Canadian national HOG rally in Kingston, Ont. in a couple weeks and plan on using the Zumo as the main gps on that trip also - until I can finally be more comfortable with the H-D unit - I doubt that will ever happen though.

If I had known how bad this unit was, I would never have bought the '14 TG. I would have at least waited a year or two to see happens. Oh well that's what happens when you're impatient and want the newest crap right away.

This H-D gps really is a POS - a real big POS - in my opinion.

 

[geezerglide11441]

is there a map update for the harley GPS?

Yes, just spoke with them on the phone! There is a 2015 map update if you have life time maps!!

Roger

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I also think the H-D gps is a POS.
I finally found a way to save addresses(took awhile, but dealer showed me where I was going wrong). There is no where in the manual that shows you a step by step direction on how to save addresses.

So far my unit has froze up on me 3 times.

I don't use way points. What I do is put in all my ABC destinations individually. When I get to my first one I take a picture then tap the next closest destination - go there/take picture - tap next closest destination etc etc. Can't do that on the H-D unit. It lists addresses alphabetically = that doesn't help me one bit. Thanks Harley - you %$#@!!!

Thank God I kept my Zumo 660. I mount it to the gas lid with the suction cup(in 4K miles and very bad roads) it has never come loose. I do have a small bungie cord as a back up holder - just in case.

With the Zumo you can go quickly to a point on a highway or anywhere else for that matter, and designate it a destination. With the H-D you can do that too, but it takes a very very very very long time to do it and very complicated. Did I mention it takes a long time?


On my last trip I used my Zumo as the main unit 99% of the time. I'm going to the Canadian national HOG rally in Kingston, Ont. in a couple weeks and plan on using the Zumo as the main gps on that trip also - until I can finally be more comfortable with the H-D unit - I doubt that will ever happen though.

If I had known how bad this unit was, I would never have bought the '14 TG. I would have at least waited a year or two to see happens. Oh well that's what happens when you're impatient and want the newest crap right away.

This H-D gps really is a POS - a real big POS - in my opinion.

:Agree: epper:

Roger

 

[GARYD]

What if you don't have lifetime updates(didn't know Harley had that) how much does an update cost?

 

[Woody]

What if you don't have lifetime updates(didn't know Harley had that) how much does an update cost?

X-2

 

[RickDeVon]

May be wrong, but the 'hole' in the dash is larger for the GPS radio. I would doubt if anyone is making an adapter face or kit for that. Good Luck.

About the GPS units, wife and I installed the Kuriatkyn (I know that is spelled wrong, but you know what I mean) gas cap cover that has an adjustable mount that you can attach a GPS, MP3, or a kitchen sink. Works great.

I may be wrong but I think they fit the same hole....gps unit and the non gps unit....

 

[riden2low]

Have a 550 Garmin with no complaints. Looking at the 2014 triglide and the Nav makes me wonder now. Is it worth it?

 

[Grimace912]

X-2

X-3

 

[Sloufoot]

What if you don't have lifetime updates(didn't know Harley had that) how much does an update cost?

The updates will be maps only & not an update for the GPS unit. They could do a GPS upgrade, but I bet Harley has a problem with that. Most likely void the warranty cause it works better. LOL !

 

[scuba1954]

The updates will be maps only & not an update for the GPS unit. They could do a GPS upgrade, but I bet Harley has a problem with that. Most likely void the warranty cause it works better. LOL !

I know you can get lifetime map updates for the zumo syle harly GPS but I did not know there are lifetime map updates available for the infotainment GPS??? I have done a couple of firmware updates on my infotainment system but if there is a way to do map updates please tell me how.