1984 goldwing with the shakes!

[dd trike]

new to trikes but not motorcycles, just got a 1984 goldwing trike wants to shake the bars out of your hands at 30-40 mph never tried any faster after that, got a PM into papa about this. would like to hear any input on my problem . thanks

 

[Gorilla]

two ideas of mine first steering head bearing nut needs tightening to 40 lbs also possible rear tire pressure

 

[rhino 2]

new to trikes but not motorcycles, just got a 1984 goldwing trike wants to shake the bars out of your hands at 30-40 mph never tried any faster after that, got a PM into papa about this. would like to hear any input on my problem . thanks

Dave.......Can't help with the shake....But i will Welcome you to Trike-Talk..:wave4:..

 

[dd trike]

trike

two ideas of mine first steering head bearing nut needs tightening to 40 lbs also possible rear tire pressure

thank you, should have also said it steers like a mack truck kills your arms.

 

[Papa Zook]

Needs a set of raked triple trees, but I only have trees for the GL1500s and GL1800s. You might try a Google search for GL1200 rake kit or GL1200 raked triple trees.

 

[cScjhb]

Re; The shakes. Two things come to mind. How old are the tires? You could have tread separation. Second item to check is steering head bearing.

As to steering like a truck, a rake kit will take care of that. Good luck and welcome..... Jim

 

[dd trike]

thanks

Needs a set of raked triple trees, but I only have trees for the GL1500s and GL1800s. You might try a Google search for GL1200 rake kit or GL1200 raked triple trees.

just no rake kits for this old bike, my buddy in crime was one of the top 10 bike builders back in the day with Indian Larry, Arlen Ness, Jesse James etc, says we will cut the neck pull it out no big deal. will let you all know how it works out.

 

[ol' school]

Hope you buddy can help. Welcome to Trike Talk Dave!

 

[irondad01]

Be careful, cutting the neck to change the rake moves the trail the wrong way. Raked trees shorten trail, raked frame lengthens trail.

 

[tfdeputydawg]

More rake does two things: one, it makes the wheelbase longer, and two, it generally increases a motorcycle's trail.

 

[trikeman]

Just my 2 cents worth. Unless trike has sentimental value or other personal reasons, l would consider selling it and upgrading to a 1500 wing trike. More power and available parts. If you shop around you can locate a decent 1500 trike with raked kit in the 5-8 k range.



I purchased this 1988 1500 with motor trike kit and rake kit for 2800$ on Craigslist last spring. It’s not a beauty but it’s comfortable and dependable. Just recently retired and sold my Stallion and have made this my last trike. Have been offered 5000$ several times but gonna keep it cause it’s cheap comfortable dependable and lots of if power to pull my kwik kamp trailer. Cruise interstates at speed limit all day and lots of parts available. Just my opinion but you know what works for you. Good luck with your wing trike. :wave4:

 

[Sidecarbill]

Deals like that are rare to unheard of around here, just sayin.:Shrug:

 

[Papa Zook]

More rake does two things: one, it makes the wheelbase longer, and two, it generally increases a motorcycle's trail.

Adding raked triple trees (rake kit) always decreases the trail, which results in much easier steering. That is the specific reason that aftermarket trike rake kits were developed.

 

[trikeman]

Deals like that are rare to unheard of around here, just sayin.:Shrug:[/QUOTE

have gone as far as CA to purchase trikes. Been lucky so far. :wave4:

 

[dd trike]

shakes

OK trike has 64 thousand miles on it, riden by a woman, something must have happend could not have always shook like this? (does need a tire and fork seals leak) NEED HELP !!!!!!!! thanks

 

[trike lady]

I've done some digging around and found them for a GL1200. :clapping: https://www.customtripletrees.com/TREES/HONDA/honda.html

When were the steering head bearings replaced? Tire wear pattern? Lifting the front wheel off the ground you can check the condition of the bearings, notchey or loose?

 

[Jack Klarich]

KISS, start by jacking up the front end. Observe and note any looseness and or binding in the fork and wheel bearings. Spin the front tire to check for high and low spots and wobble. With 60K I would be replacing that tire just because. Good Luck and let us know how it goes

 

[tfdeputydawg]

Adding raked triple trees (rake kit) always decreases the trail, which results in much easier steering. That is the specific reason that aftermarket trike rake kits were developed.

Interesting. I got my info off the internet. It’s never wrong is it? LOL

 

[Papa Zook]

Interesting. I got my info off the internet. It’s never wrong is it? LOL

Tom, of course the internet is never wrong. With so many experts out there, it has to be right. Right? :laugh:

 

[trikeman]

Tom, of course the internet is never wrong. With so many experts out there, it has to be right. Right? :laugh:

RIGHT!!:wave4:

 

[dd trike]

shaky update

KISS, start by jacking up the front end. Observe and note any looseness and or binding in the fork and wheel bearings. Spin the front tire to check for high and low spots and wobble. With 60K I would be replacing that tire just because. Good Luck and let us know how it goes

found raked trees, $1025.00 ,just cant swing that, SO took the front wheel in for a new tire, ordered stem bearings and fork seals, the stem bearing races were in bad shape!! we will see . thanks to all for the info.

 

[dd trike]

shakey trike

found raked trees, $1025.00 ,just cant swing that, SO took the front wheel in for a new tire, ordered stem bearings and fork seals, the stem bearing races were in bad shape!! we will see . thanks to all for the info.

got all the parts today from saber cycle, fast shipping and all the parts were right ! got the stem bearings done, next fork seals. also posted 40 # torque on the bearings we found that way to much. bearings would go bad in no time. did them by feel much better.

 

[vwbug72501]

Needs a set of raked triple trees, but I only have trees for the GL1500s and GL1800s. You might try a Google search for GL1200 rake kit or GL1200 raked triple trees.

Information that I find (on the Internet, of course) says that:

• GL-1200 I “Interstate” (84-87)
  
• GL-1200L “Ltd” (85)
  
• and
  
• GL-1500 “Goldwing” (88-90)
  
• GL-1500I “Interstate” (91-96)
  

Both use 41mm diameter fork tubes so 1500 raked tree might work. The only thing I dont know about is if the threading of the slugs (if used) is compatible. The neck bearings look to have the same dimensions GL1200 to GL1500. you might have to get "creative" to get all the other pieces mounted to the triple trees.

 

[CrystalPistol]

just no rake kits for this old bike, my buddy in crime was one of the top 10 bike builders back in the day with Indian Larry, Arlen Ness, Jesse James etc, says we will cut the neck pull it out no big deal. will let you all know how it works out.

Cutting the neck and pulling it out does not do what a "rake kit" does. It increase the rake of the tubes true enough, but it also increases steering stem angle the same. In practice, it will increase trail which is the distance from the tire contact patch to that point where a line drawn through the steering stem meets the road. It will make heavier steering.

A "rake kit" is so named as it kicks the fork tubes out without changing the steering stem angle ... which shortens trail and lightens steering.

I did not even mention that both modifications also lower the front of the trike. I drew in a black line to show a modified stem angle.

 

[dd trike]

shakes

found raked trees, $1025.00 ,just cant swing that, SO took the front wheel in for a new tire, ordered stem bearings and fork seals, the stem bearing races were in bad shape!! we will see . thanks to all for the info.

well did all this still shakes BAD! now what? i cant afford $1200.00 for raked trees.

 

[trike lady]

A steering damper would help.

 

[dd trike]

shakes

A steering damper would help.

thank you , but it already steers to hard, and i keep dumping $$$ with no change.

 

[Sidecarbill]

got all the parts today from saber cycle, fast shipping and all the parts were right ! got the stem bearings done, next fork seals. also posted 40 # torque on the bearings we found that way to much. bearings would go bad in no time. did them by feel much better.

You may have shot self in the foot on this one

 

[irondad01]

As someone said, the rear tires can cause a wobble. Is the bolt pattern a common one that you could temporarily try some other wheels to see if that changes anything? Also a rear brake hanging up could be the problem. A pulsating brake on one side on the rear will swing the front end back and forth.

Like you said, the lady couldn't have ridden it that way so maybe something froze up or deteriorated from sitting.

Good luck.

 

[dd trike]

shakes

As someone said, the rear tires can cause a wobble. Is the bolt pattern a common one that you could temporarily try some other wheels to see if that changes anything? Also a rear brake hanging up could be the problem. A pulsating brake on one side on the rear will swing the front end back and forth.

Like you said, the lady couldn't have ridden it that way so maybe something froze up or deteriorated from sitting.

Good luck.

checked out the rear cant find anything, it shakes even when slowly moving?