Tone ring gouge marks

[Rogue1]

Has anyone who has pulled their axles noticed gouge marks in the tone ring housing? Exact same on both sides. You can also see the rust at the top of the bearing race. Passenger side came right out while left side needed a slide hammer.

 

[rhino 2]

Has anyone who has pulled their axles noticed gouge marks in the tone ring housing? Exact same on both sides.View attachment 110185 You can also see the rust at the top of the bearing race. Passenger side came right out while left side needed a slide hammer.

Did you Traction control or ABS lights go on??

 

[Jack Klarich]

Cheap bearing retainer plate allowing too much end play of axle

These are the fix

https://www.dkcustomproducts.com/ax...for-harley-davidson-tri-glide-freewheeler.htm

 

[Rogue1]

Cheap bearing retainer plate allowing too much end play of axle

These are the fix

https://www.dkcustomproducts.com/ax...for-harley-davidson-tri-glide-freewheeler.htm

I have had the DK retainer plates for a couple months and I'm just getting around to installing them now. One of the local dealers here wouldn't even touch it if I brought the axles in. They said they didn't have the equipment to do it? I said so I have a Harley-Davidson product that you won't work on very interesting. Asheboro machine shop said no problem bring them down dropped them off yesterday should pick them up today.

 

[PosseRider]

mine had marks at 10k already. Had the DK retainers installed. Much beefier plate & also O ring gasket designed into the plate. GOOD Quality stuff

 

[Rogue1]

Did you Traction control or ABS lights go on??

No traction control or ABS lights, just changing the retainer plates and bearings.

 

[Jack Klarich]

I have had the DK retainer plates for a couple months and I'm just getting around to installing them now. One of the local dealers here wouldn't even touch it if I brought the axles in. They said they didn't have the equipment to do it? I said so I have a Harley-Davidson product that you won't work on very interesting. Asheboro machine shop said no problem bring them down dropped them off yesterday should pick them up today.

That is funny, sounds like they don't know how to

I would bet they DO have a press

 

[Rogue1]

Gentlemen, thank you for your input.

 

[rhino 2]

That is funny, sounds like they don't know how to

I would bet they DO have a press

Sometimes dealers don’t wanna work on stuff that they didn’t sell I don’t want to end up owning it if something breaks.. Bring a pair of old eyeglasses in to an optometrist and ask them if they can put new lenses in and see what they tell you….

I had my own one-man business (shop ) and I can’t tell you how many times I help somebody out they come back six months later and said you worked on this last and now there’s something wrong with it ..And now it’s my headache…!

 

[Rogue1]

Sometimes dealers don’t wanna work on stuff that they didn’t sell I don’t want to end up owning it if something breaks.. Bring a pair of old eyeglasses in to an optometrist and ask them if they can put new lenses in and see what they tell you….

I had my own one-man business (shop ) and I can’t tell you how many times I help somebody out they come back six months later and said you worked on this last and now there’s something wrong with it ..And now it’s my headache…!

I know EXACTLY what you mean. I ran an independent shop for 15 years before I got into the Department of Corrections. Just one example I did a tune-up for a guy on his bike I don't remember the bike ( this was back in the late '70s when you actually did real tune-ups points plugs, valves, oil) 3 months later he comes back in bitching and moaning his shifter shaft seal is leaking and I was the last one to work on it. We had words and he left.

 

[Mykneesbehurtin]

Sometimes dealers don’t wanna work on stuff that they didn’t sell I don’t want to end up owning it if something breaks.. Bring a pair of old eyeglasses in to an optometrist and ask them if they can put new lenses in and see what they tell you….

I had my own one-man business (shop ) and I can’t tell you how many times I help somebody out they come back six months later and said you worked on this last and now there’s something wrong with it ..And now it’s my headache…!

This is the very reason I quit doing cam installs, brakes, ect.

 

[Rogue1]

Sometimes dealers don’t wanna work on stuff that they didn’t sell I don’t want to end up owning it if something breaks.. Bring a pair of old eyeglasses in to an optometrist and ask them if they can put new lenses in and see what they tell you….

I had my own one-man business (shop ) and I can’t tell you how many times I help somebody out they come back six months later and said you worked on this last and now there’s something wrong with it ..And now it’s my headache…!

I've never had a dealer refused to work on my bike even if I didn't buy it there. If it's something under warranty any Harley dealer has to work on it. Of course this isn't warranty work but I was just taken back when they refused to work on it. Two other dealers I go to local said sure bring it in we'll do it.

 

[rhino 2]

I've never had a dealer refused to work on my bike even if I didn't buy it there. If it's something under warranty any Harley dealer has to work on it. Of course this isn't warranty work but I was just taken back when they refused to work on it. Two other dealers I go to local said sure bring it in we'll do it.

Being the Devils Advocate.....That dealer might of had a bad experience at one time taken in other peoples headaches.......:Shrug:..

 

[Mykneesbehurtin]

Has anyone who has pulled their axles noticed gouge marks in the tone ring housing? Exact same on both sides.View attachment 110185 You can also see the rust at the top of the bearing race. Passenger side came right out while left side needed a slide hammer.

When I replaced my axle bearing retainers mine looked the same. Also I took the sound advice from jack Klarich and removed the seals on the bearings very carefully and hand packed the bearings with grease. I was shocked to see how little grease was in them from the factory.

 

[Rogue1]

Being the Devils Advocate.....That dealer might of had a bad experience at one time taken in other peoples headaches.......:Shrug:..

Very true

 

[Rogue1]

When I replaced my axle bearing retainers mine looked the same. Also I took the sound advice from jack Klarich and removed the seals on the bearings very carefully and hand packed the bearings with grease. I was shocked to see how little grease was in them from the factory.

I did the same although they looked pretty good, I packed the shit out of 'em.

 

[Jack Klarich]

I did the same although they looked pretty good, I packed the shit out of 'em.

Good on you

Most sealed bearings I have cleaned out and repacked were not fully packed IMO

of note also, the consistency of the grease was that of Vaseline

 

[Rogue1]

Cheap bearing retainer plate allowing too much end play of axle

These are the fix

https://www.dkcustomproducts.com/ax...for-harley-davidson-tri-glide-freewheeler.htm

I understand what you're saying Jack. What I don't understand is how the retaining plate has control of the end play of the axle. The hole in the retaining plate is a lot larger than the actual diameter of the axle, if it's not a tight fit around the axle how does it control the movement? I must be missing something.

 

[Jack Klarich]

I understand what you're saying Jack. What I don't understand is how the retaining plate has control of the end play of the axle. The hole in the retaining plate is a lot larger than the actual diameter of the axle, if it's not a tight fit around the axle how does it control the movement? I must be missing something.

The retainer plates are stamped steel and flex a lot, especially during hard cornering

This causes the plates to distort some, thus not holding enough pressure to keep the axles from even slight movement, this will give the score marks inside the axle housing

This is not new, we saw many cars and trucks with the very same stamped bearing retainers, mid 70s saw quite a few Ford trucks with sheared axles from what I believe

to be cause and effect of the retainers

 

[Rogue1]

Jack, I believed every word you said. Your advice hasn't let me down yet. But I saw it with my own eyes. Sometimes that's what it takes with me. I took the retainer plates off and laid them on a surface plate. They were both warped. The worst one I could slide a 20 thou feeler gauge under one end between the surface plate and the retainer plate. It's not much, but there it is, both of them were warped. It's hard to believe that that little amount of warpage caused the problem I found. But it did. Thanks for your input

 

[Jack Klarich]

Jack, I believed every word you said. Your advice hasn't let me down yet. But I saw it with my own eyes. Sometimes that's what it takes with me. I took the retainer plates off and laid them on a surface plate. They were both warped. The worst one I could slide a 20 thou feeler gauge under one end between the surface plate and the retainer plate. It's not much, but there it is, both of them were warped. It's hard to believe that that little amount of warpage caused the problem I found. But it did. Thanks for your input

Good on you, I feel safe in saying you have just made a great move to protect your axles

Yes seeing is believing for sure, congrats on a job well done, many miles of smiles for you:clapping: