2017 Tri Low Idle

[hddocfl]

Is there a way to get the idle raised on my 2017 m-8 Tri Glide when warm it will idle at 800 and it has become a problem for me with just 5500 miles on the trike. Thanks Doc

 

[ultrafxr]

If it is stock have your dealer hook it up to Digital Technician and check the calibration number. 41000481B was released a while back to help with the complaint of low idle. There is now a "C" version, 41000481C. I don't know what 'C' was to address but had my 2018 flashed with 'C' last week.

Since yours is a 2017 model you may very well have the 'A' version and if so upgrading may help the problem.

As others will no doubt tell you aftermarket tuners such as PowerVision by DynoJet and TTS by MasterTune and possibly some others have provisions for adjust idle speed. Just be careful if you use one of these that you can return to your stock calibration if warranty / ESP work is required. H-D will check and if found will deny coverage for sure on the 2017 and up due to their EPA consent agreement.

 

[ultrafxr]

Another thing I learned and experienced. If you enable the EITMS turns off the rear cylinder fuel injector during idle if certain parameters are met to help reduce heat . . . AND it actually raises your idle speed. Since you are in Florida and have warm weather (well usually, lol) this might help. I never used it on my 2012 but always do on my 2018 TG. When idling in hot weather having it enabled seems to work better for me.

 

[rhino 2]

Is there a way to get the idle raised on my 2017 m-8 Tri Glide when warm it will idle at 800 and it has become a problem for me with just 5500 miles on the trike. Thanks Doc

What is the problem you are having....My problem was the quick clutch engagement , And if i didn't get on the gas fast enough it would stall ...I solved that with a adjustable clutch lever .......

 

[hddocfl]

What is the problem you are having....My problem was the quick cluch engagement , And if i didn't get on the gas fast enough it would stall ...I solved that with a adjustable cluch lever .......

Same problem. Rino Aggregating

 

[hddocfl]

Another thing I learned and experienced. If you enable the EITMS turns off the rear cylinder fuel injector during idle if certain parameters are met to help reduce heat . . . AND it actually raises your idle speed. Since you are in Florida and have warm weather (well usually, lol) this might help. I never used it on my 2012 but always do on my 2018 TG. When idling in hot weather having it enabled seems to work better for me.

Have it enabled Thanks

 

[hddocfl]

Same problem. Rino Aggregating

I also have the reduced lever on 3 which if I go lower bike gets worst.

 

[hddocfl]

Thanks for the help, I though all the M-8 had the lower idle I will see what the dealer can do about it. Doc

 

[rhino 2]

Thanks for the help, I though all the M-8 had the lower idle I will see what the dealer can do about it. Doc

I'm assuming my M8 is idling at 850 but with the standard Healey tachometer it doesn't give you a accurate read I.E.: Fine increments .��

 

[Jack Klarich]

850 was to be the target idle

I would call the dealer and take it in

 

[Scarecrow]

Is there a way to get the idle raised on my 2017 m-8 Tri Glide when warm it will idle at 800 and it has become a problem for me with just 5500 miles on the trike. Thanks Doc

When I took my 18 TG in to Spacecoast HD in Palm Bay for my first service I also ask if there is anyway to raise the idle but was told that was preset by factory and was correct ...dealership could not change it. I am slow but sure getting use to it.

 

[hddocfl]

It appears I have the right c flash in the Tri, Once in a while it will buck like crasy in first gear at slow speed, Have gotten use to pulling in the clutch and giving it more revs then releasing the clutch. I have it pinned to when the ems kicks in thats were the problem starts after the Tri is hot very little problem as the idle is higher. Thanks for the help.

 

[vito]

It appears I have the right c flash in the Tri, Once in a while it will buck like crasy in first gear at slow speed, Have gotten use to pulling in the clutch and giving it more revs then releasing the clutch. I have it pinned to when the ems kicks in thats were the problem starts after the Tri is hot very little problem as the idle is higher. Thanks for the help.

Any bike or car with a manual clutch will buck like crazy if it is lugged down to idle while in gear. There are two possible cures. 1) replace the clutch with a fluid drive similar to the Chryslers of the late 40's or 2) quit lugging it. I don't know of any "Fluid Drive" for a Harley so I guess we're stuck with #2 :clapping:

 

[HDMAN]

Auto clutch

Check this out I think this may be the answer it is a little pricey but looks good to me.

https://rekluse.com/

 

[rhino 2]

Any bike or car with a manual clutch will buck like crazy if it is lugged down to idle while in gear. There are two possible cures. 1) replace the clutch with a fluid drive similar to the Chryslers of the late 40's or 2) quit lugging it. I don't know of any "Fluid Drive" for a Harley so I guess we're stuck with #2 :clapping:

#3.....Feather the clutch....

 

[rhino 2]

Check this out I think this may be the answer it is a little pricey but looks good to me.

https://rekluse.com/

With the rekluse you must remember when you park to always use the parking brake, Or tie-down the hand brake when you park,Or the trike might roll away..

 

[hddocfl]

Thanks for the help but it is not a problem with me and the clutch , It has to do with the emis when it is in trans mode from low to high idle, it will go from slow rear cyl, on to high rear cyl off back and forth rapidly, I am taking it back to the dealers Tues It appears it takes to longer to make up its mind weather it wants on or off, With the EMIS off I do not have the problem.

 

[1dn5up]

Thanks for the help but it is not a problem with me and the clutch , It has to do with the emis when it is in trans mode from low to high idle, it will go from slow rear cyl, on to high rear cyl off back and forth rapidly, I am taking it back to the dealers Tues It appears it takes to longer to make up its mind weather it wants on or off, With the EMIS off I do not have the problem.

Mine did the high-low thing. Turned out to be the defective DBW throttle gizmo. Will drive ya bonkers!

 

[hddocfl]

Mine did the high-low thing. Turned out to be the defective DBW throttle gizmo. Will drive ya bonkers!

I think you may have hit the nail on the head. Thanks

 

[hddocfl]

Turns out I had a defective neutral safety switch. Thanks All Also no way to up the idle without going aftermarket.