Motorcycle Oil List w/ Links (READ)

[Solidbob]

I was concerned when reading my usual bottle of oils for an oil change and noticed I had NOW bought the wrong oil!! Same label different rating, so I made a list and here is what I found out with a link to each brands web-site, think some maybe changing oil if they didn't read that bottle, lots have gone energy saving and some that we have used for years have dropped the JASO,MA rating for Wet Clutch use:
Brand Approx. Qt.

MOBIL 1 4T Full Synthetic Racing (Red Label) MotorcycleOil / 10w40 10.99
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil1_Racing_4T_10W-40.aspx

Valvoline 4T FullSynthetic Motorcycle Oil / 10w40 9.99
http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/valvoline/motorcycle-atv-oil/129

Amsoil Advanced Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil /10w30 – 10w40 – 20w50 12.99
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/motorcycle/

Royal Purple Max –Cycle Full Synthetic MC Oil / 10w30 – 10w40 – 20w50 16.99
http://www.royalpurpleconsumer.com/products/max-cycle-motorcycle-engine-oil/

Castrol Power RSRacing 4T Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil / 10w40 13.99
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9045375&contentId=7079435

Shell Advance 4TUltra Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil /10w40 – 20w50 NEW ?

http://www.shell.com/global/products-services/on-the-road/oils-lubricants/motorcycles/find-right-bike-oils/4-stroke-engine-oils/shell-advance-ultra.html

Redline HiPrefFull Synthetic Motorcycle Oil / 10w40 14.49
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=109&pcid=13


OTHERS Silkolene, Lucas, Motul, Honda, Maxima

All above areMotorcycle Oils made for Wet Clutch Use with a JASO MA Rating.

Please Read Shell RotellaT6 New Product Page: http://www.shell.com/rotella/products/t6.html
The Only Shell Oil that lists the JASO MA rating is:
http://www.shell.com/rotella/products/tpl-pro.html

SO DON’T LOOK FORTHE BLUE JUG AT WALMART…………. NOT THE SAME STUFF!!

I now use thefirst two as they are available by the quart at Auto Zone Auto Parts Stores…
Can’t find ShellAdvance any where so I guess they are deserting the motorcycle community!!
Read those standardsbefore just getting a colored jug, glad I started making a list!!

Read Those Containers: JASO,MA required for a Wet Clutch!!

 

[1800 06 Champion Trike]

I've been using the T-6 Rotella Synt Blue Jug.
In my wing since new.

According to this, I shouldn't use it??
I was told years ago not to use the white jug

 

[Calgary]

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<div class="message">I was concerned when reading my usual bottle of oils for an oil change and noticed I had NOW bought the wrong oil!! Same label different rating, so I made a list and here is what I found out with a link to each brands web-site, think some maybe changing oil if they didn't read that bottle, lots have gone energy saving and some that we have used for years have dropped the JASO,MA rating for Wet Clutch use:<br />
<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font color="#000000">Brand Approx. Qt.</font></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><span class="highlight">MOBIL</span> 1 4T Full Synthetic Racing (Red Label) MotorcycleOil / 10w40 10.99</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil1_Racing_4T_10W-40.aspx" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil1_Racing_4T_10W-40.aspx</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Valvoline 4T FullSynthetic Motorcycle Oil / 10w40 9.99</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/valvoline/motorcycle-atv-oil/129" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/valvoline/motorcycle-atv-oil/129</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Amsoil Advanced Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil /10w30 – 10w40 – 20w50 12.99</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/motorcycle/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/motorcycle/</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Royal Purple Max –Cycle Full Synthetic MC Oil / 10w30 – 10w40 – 20w50 16.99</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.royalpurpleconsumer.com/products/max-cycle-motorcycle-engine-oil/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.royalpurpleconsumer.com/products/max-cycle-motorcycle-engine-oil/</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Castrol Power RSRacing 4T Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil / 10w40 13.99</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9045375&contentId=7079435" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9045375&contentId=7079435</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Shell Advance 4TUltra Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil /10w40 – 20w50 NEW ?</font></font></span></b><br />
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<b><a href="http://www.shell.com/global/products-services/on-the-road/oils-lubricants/motorcycles/find-right-bike-oils/4-stroke-engine-oils/shell-advance-ultra.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.shell.com/global/products-services/on-the-road/oils-lubricants/motorcycles/find-right-bike-oils/4-stroke-engine-oils/shell-advance-ultra.html</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Redline HiPrefFull Synthetic Motorcycle Oil / 10w40 14.49</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=109&pcid=13" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=109&pcid=13</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">OTHERS Silkolene, Lucas, Motul, Honda, Maxima</font></font></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">All above areMotorcycle Oils made for Wet Clutch Use with a JASO MA Rating.</font></font></span></b><br />
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<b><font color="red"><span style="font-family: Calibri">Please Read Shell RotellaT6 New Product Page: </span><a href="http://www.shell.com/rotella/products/t6.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.shell.com/rotella/products/t6.html</font></span></a></font></b><br />
<b><font color="red"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3">The Only Shell Oil that lists the JASO MA rating is: </font></span></font></b><br />
<b><font color="#0070C0"><a href="http://www.shell.com/rotella/products/tpl-pro.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.shell.com/rotella/products/tpl-pro.html</font></font></span></a></font></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">SO DON’T LOOK FORTHE BLUE JUG AT WALMART…………. NOT THE SAME STUFF!!</font></font></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">I now use thefirst two as they are available by the quart at Auto Zone Auto Parts Stores…</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Can’t find ShellAdvance any where so I guess they are deserting the motorcycle community!!</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Read those standardsbefore just getting a colored jug, glad I started making a list!!</font></font></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font color="#000000">Read Those Containers: JASO,MA required for a Wet Clutch!!</font></span></b><br /></div>

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</div>Thanx for this Solidbob! What's the current thinking if you're running a non-JASO,MA oil - should you be flushing the crankcase before switching to a JASO,MA oil?<br />
<img src="images/smilies/GL1800smilie.gif" border="0" alt="" title="GL1800" class="inlineimg" /><img src="images/smilies/GL1800smilie.gif" border="0" alt="" title="GL1800" class="inlineimg" /><img src="images/smilies/GL1800smilie.gif" border="0" alt="" title="GL1800" class="inlineimg" /><img src="images/smilies/GL1800smilie.gif" border="0" alt="" title="GL1800" class="inlineimg" />

 

[tfdeputydawg]

My manual does not call out ..w50 oil?????????

 

[keepinon]

Do the GL1800's specify the JASO rating in their service manuals? I know I looked at my service manuals for the Valk & VT1100, both only spec 10w40, API service class SF/SG. I know not to use friction modifiers, I've not seen a diesel oil with them in it.

Just curious why the concern.

 

[Solidbob]

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<div class="message">Thanx for this Solidbob! What's the current thinking if you're running a non-JASO,MA oil - should you be flushing the crankcase before switching to a JASO,MA oil?<br />
<img src="images/smilies/GL1800smilie.gif" border="0" alt="" title="GL1800" class="inlineimg" /><img src="images/smilies/GL1800smilie.gif" border="0" alt="" title="GL1800" class="inlineimg" /><img src="images/smilies/GL1800smilie.gif" border="0" alt="" title="GL1800" class="inlineimg" /><img src="images/smilies/GL1800smilie.gif" border="0" alt="" title="GL1800" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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</div>Don't know, I let mine drain with the filter and plug out overnight and it was no longer dripping in the pan. I would assume if the wrong oil was used the metal parts would be deluted while the clutch basket would have to be re-built to completely get it cleaned out, well that won't be happening on mine. I refilled with <span class="highlight">Mobil</span> 1 4T Racing M/C Oil rated JASO,MA on the bottle 10W40 with a New Purolator ML16817 Filter and 4oz. of ZDDP. Let it idle til it was at mid-temp working the clutch a few times then went on a 100 mile ride. Noticed no problems during ride and noticed no slippage thru the tach. So I assume good to go again.... Good as I an do.... Just need to read better next time!!<br />
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And Thank You Dawg for pointing out what your manual states, that's why I use 10W40.....

that's why this Post has links added about products available....

 

[scribe5]

I got a jug of the Rotella Blue and it says on the back JASO MA. Bought it a few weeks ago at Walmart. Old stock?

 

[Calgary]

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<div class="message">I got a jug of the Rotella Blue and it says on the back JASO MA. Bought it a few weeks ago at Walmart. Old stock?</div>

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</div>I checked my T6 container from my last oil change and found it still listed it as JASO MA compliant, just as I was about to drain my trike. <br />
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I'm on my way to Houston early next week so will have a chance to put another 2500 miles on it. Will drain it then and replace with HP4S I have coming from WingStuff. If it works as well as the reports indicate, I'll not be switching again.<br />
<img src="images/smilies/GL1800smilie.gif" border="0" alt="" title="GL1800" class="inlineimg" /><img src="images/smilies/GL1800smilie.gif" border="0" alt="" title="GL1800" class="inlineimg" /><img src="images/smilies/GL1800smilie.gif" border="0" alt="" title="GL1800" class="inlineimg" /><img src="images/smilies/GL1800smilie.gif" border="0" alt="" title="GL1800" class="inlineimg" />

 

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<div class="message">I was concerned when reading my usual bottle of oils for an oil change and noticed I had NOW bought the wrong oil!! Same label different rating, so I made a list and here is what I found out with a link to each brands web-site, think some maybe changing oil if they didn't read that bottle, lots have gone energy saving and some that we have used for years have dropped the JASO,MA rating for Wet Clutch use:<br />
<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font color="#000000">Brand Approx. Qt.</font></span></b><br />
<br />
<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><span class="highlight">MOBIL</span> 1 4T Full Synthetic Racing (Red Label) MotorcycleOil / 10w40 10.99</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil1_Racing_4T_10W-40.aspx" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil1_Racing_4T_10W-40.aspx</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Valvoline 4T FullSynthetic Motorcycle Oil / 10w40 9.99</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/valvoline/motorcycle-atv-oil/129" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/valvoline/motorcycle-atv-oil/129</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Amsoil Advanced Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil /10w30 – 10w40 – 20w50 12.99</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/motorcycle/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/motorcycle/</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Royal Purple Max –Cycle Full Synthetic MC Oil / 10w30 – 10w40 – 20w50 16.99</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.royalpurpleconsumer.com/products/max-cycle-motorcycle-engine-oil/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.royalpurpleconsumer.com/products/max-cycle-motorcycle-engine-oil/</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Castrol Power RSRacing 4T Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil / 10w40 13.99</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9045375&contentId=7079435" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9045375&contentId=7079435</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Shell Advance 4TUltra Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil /10w40 – 20w50 NEW ?</font></font></span></b><br />
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<b><a href="http://www.shell.com/global/products-services/on-the-road/oils-lubricants/motorcycles/find-right-bike-oils/4-stroke-engine-oils/shell-advance-ultra.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.shell.com/global/products-services/on-the-road/oils-lubricants/motorcycles/find-right-bike-oils/4-stroke-engine-oils/shell-advance-ultra.html</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Redline HiPrefFull Synthetic Motorcycle Oil / 10w40 14.49</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=109&pcid=13" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=109&pcid=13</font></font></span></a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">OTHERS Silkolene, Lucas, Motul, Honda, Maxima</font></font></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">All above areMotorcycle Oils made for Wet Clutch Use with a JASO MA Rating.</font></font></span></b><br />
<br />
<b><font color="red"><span style="font-family: Calibri">Please Read Shell RotellaT6 New Product Page: </span><a href="http://www.shell.com/rotella/products/t6.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.shell.com/rotella/products/t6.html</font></span></a></font></b><br />
<b><font color="red"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3">The Only Shell Oil that lists the JASO MA rating is: </font></span></font></b><br />
<b><font color="#0070c0"><a href="http://www.shell.com/rotella/products/tpl-pro.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">http://www.shell.com/rotella/products/tpl-pro.html</font></font></span></a></font></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">SO DON’T LOOK FORTHE BLUE JUG AT WALMART…………. NOT THE SAME STUFF!!</font></font></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">I now use thefirst two as they are available by the quart at Auto Zone Auto Parts Stores…</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Can’t find ShellAdvance any where so I guess they are deserting the motorcycle community!!</font></font></span></b><br />
<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Read those standardsbefore just getting a colored jug, glad I started making a list!!</font></font></span></b><br />
<br />
<b><span style="font-family: Calibri"><font color="#000000">Read Those Containers: JASO,MA required for a Wet Clutch!!</font></span></b><br /></div>

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</div>WOW! I've been using the Blue Rotella gallon jug. I still have an empty one at home and will read the label as soon as I get there!<br />
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Thanks MUCH for that info!

 

[jfingalls]

Thank you to my fellow TrikeTalk friends, you are the reason I love this forum. My next oil change will be with the <span class="highlight">Mobil</span> 1 T4 only. I too have been using the Shell's T6 since my first oil change. I feel the information you all have provided make perfect sense and Shell is positioning themselves to not get into a litigation situation from the first person who has transmission problems and sues them. I also agree with your thoughts that unless the brand is willing to stand up and publish their product is the right stuff for our bikes, they are not worthy of our business. Thanks again Guys.....<img src="images/smilies/smileygarden_de_banana7.gif" border="0" alt="" title="pepper" class="inlineimg" />

 

[SEABILL]

You might find this interesting!

http://www.oilspecifications.org/articles/JASO_MA_JASO_MB.php

 

[Solidbob]

Seabill,

Thanks now I've got a headache, more reading, learning more about oil than I want / but a good answer from a good source.... again I say read the jug...


:goodjob:

 

[jagjeep]

Solidbob,
Thanks for all your work on this issue. It's made my decision easier as to what oil to use to reduce "gear noise" in the Valkyrie. Today, I posted my decision about what should be good for the Valk. (Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40)...
Again, thanks.
Jagjeep

 

[Konrad]

Yesterday at Tractor Supply I found some jugs of Rotella T6 without the JASO MA rating. At Walmart I found Rotella T6 jugs with the JSAO MA rating. Both sets of gallon jugs appeared the same except for the rating. It is almost as if Shell suddenly found out that Rotella T6 actually did not meet JASO specs and simply changed the label. If they claim they have not changed the formulation then perhaps it was improperly labeled for quite some time. To our detriment.

I've lost my faith in shell products and I'm switching to either Mobil 1 or Valvoline. I'll be glad to use Amsoil as solon as they begin selling it in the local shops - I'm not going to drive 40 miles to get it or pay for delivery.

 

[Mick]

One thing to remember with Shell Rotella T is that its a diesel oil and is sold as such. That is Shells market for all of their Rotella oils. It meets our standards for oil for our trikes but is sold for diesel trucks. Some years ago when I rode a different bike and to this day those guys on that forum still use Rotella,someone queried Shell about the oil and their motorcycle and Shell told them its not recommended for motorcycles. The fact that shell answered the question about motorcycle oil now is showing how times have changed. I personally wouldnt put a 5 w whatever oil in my trike. Considering the extra weight we haul and Hondas recommendation of a minimum at least of 10w30 I would go 10w30 or 10w40 minimum.

 

[SMSgt]

Solidbob, you already started the same thread on the GL1800 forum, were you hoping to get a different answer here? :gah:

 

[Veritas44]

Solidbob, you already started the same thread on the GL1800 forum, were you hoping to get a different answer here? :gah:

THIS is Trike Talk....
Think Bob was simply disseminating pertinent Information to, and soliciting Input from ALL applicable Venues & Sources.
Surely there is nothing "wrong" or contrary to SOP with that is there?????

Relax,,, It's Friday, the Weather is improving everywhere, Daytona Bike Week has now begun.
The Official beginning of Bike/Trike Spring has finally arrived :clapping:

Stand down Senior Master SGT. It's ALL Good
Awesome Day and Weekend to Ya ThumbUp

 

[SMSgt]

THIS is Trike Talk....
Think Bob was simply disseminating pertinent Information to, and soliciting Input from ALL applicable Venues & Sources.
Surely there is nothing "wrong" or contrary to SOP with that is there?????

Relax,,, It's Friday, the Weather is improving everywhere, Daytona Bike Week has now begun.
The Official beginning of Bike/Trike Spring has finally arrived :clapping:

Stand down Senior Master SGT. It's ALL Good
Awesome Day and Weekend to Ya ThumbUp

Yeah I guess I was in a nasty mood the other night, I apologize. And you are right it is Friday and even better I'm sitting here with nothing better to do that look at motorcycle stuff and wait for our ride to get here and take me and the wife off to the airport to go on a 4 day Caribbean cruise. So you all will get break from me. But I'll be thinking of you. :xszpv:I'm outa here.

 

[Veritas44]

Yeah I guess I was in a nasty mood the other night. And you are right it is Friday and even better I'm sitting here with nothing better to do that look at motorcycle stuff and wait for our ride to get here and take me and the wife off to the airport to go on a 4 day Caribbean cruise. So you all will get break from me. But I'll be thinking of you. :xszpv:I'm outa here.

We ALL get "that way" from time to time
Enjoy your Cruise ThumbUp

But,,, sorry, doubt we will be thinking about you

 

[Solidbob]

Well Break My Heart.......a Cruise.... enjoy!!!