Lehman Monarch I on 2004 GW Do I have correct part #'s

[harrywing]

Looking to replace brake shoes, whl. cyl., and U-joints wanted to know if I have correct part #'s?
Brake shoes Duralast #569
U-joint Moog #430
Wheel cyls. Duralast #33825
Any help appreciated if u have additional #'s would also be interested. The Lehman manual as most of you know is not very helpful and calling was fruitless. I was on their website but part numbers weren't there
Thanks, Harry

 

[CrystalPistol]

Looking to replace brake shoes, whl. cyl., and U-joints wanted to know if I have correct part #'s?
Brake shoes Duralast #569
U-joint Moog #430
Wheel cyls. Duralast #33825
Any help appreciated if u have additional #'s would also be interested. The Lehman manual as most of you know is not very helpful and calling was fruitless. I was on their website but part numbers weren't there
Thanks, Harry

Below is a copy of page from the 2003 book combined with my notes .... I forget which is which ... but your part numbers all look good. The brakes are Ford 9" diameter X 1-3/4 wide Ford drum brakes. Used on a huge variety of Fords from Pintos to Thunderbirds to Ranger PUs.

The wheel cylinders .... the Duralast 33825 is 3/4" diameter inside, but the ones that were on my '97 GL1500 / Lehman GTL solid axle that was triked in 1998 were 7/8" diameter when I measured them last year (I had one start leaking so I replaced both) so I used Wagner WCA79985 wheel cylinders. The larger diameter will increase braking effort slightly assuming same pressure applied at foot pedal, but they also result in slightly more pedal travel to apply. I think that maybe Lehman revised their choice to maybe shorten pedal travel after 1998 but before 2003. Either number will work .... or there is a very slight, almost non existent chance that mine were replaced with the larger ones between 1998 and 2004 .... but knowing the owner / builder / dealer and knowing him since 1998, he'd have R&R-ed with exact same WCs as come off.

I may well replace mine's 7/8" WCs with the slightly smaller 3/4" diameter WCs myself ..... been thinking some on it this coming winter just to see if I like the change.

(7/8" diameter area 0.6013408 sq in)
(13/16" diameter area 0.518503 sq in)
(3/4" diameter area 0.441786 sq in)

Lehman GTL Repl Parts as of 2003 book (GB#s are Lehman Numbers)
(Brakes / Rear Axle from 1980 Ford Pinto with 6.75" Ring Gear)
Description - Lehman Number - Vendor Part Number - Vendor

Brake Shoes GB1118 ... 474RP Raybestos or Duralast Brake Shoes #569 same fit

Left Brake Adjuster Kit GB1110 2592 EIS
Right Brake Adjuster Kit GB1112 2593 EIS
Brake Spring Kit GB1124 7157 EIS
_____________________________________________________________
Wheel Cylinders GB1122 EW34958 TRU-TECH

(7/8" diameter as used 1980 Pinto rear 9" drums)(Raybestos EW34958 / Wagner WC79985 or WCA79985 / Bendix 33620)

(7/8" diameter area 0.6013408 sq in)
Wagner WC79985 or WCA79985 Install 09-16-15 .... measure OEM at 7/8"
Wagner WCA37640 is 13/16" diameter fits some mid '80s Ranger 9" drums

(13/16" diameter area 0.518503 sq in)
(3/4" diameter area 0.441786 sq in)
Wagner WCA101604 is 3/4" diameter fits 1985 T-bird 9" drums.
Wagner WCA37574 isalso 3/4" diameter, fits ???.
"area equals Pi X Ràdius squared"

Duralast Wheel Cylinder #33825 (Ford) 3/4" Dia
_____________________________________________________________
U-Joint .... Neapco 1-4635

or Moog 430 (added info 09-18-15)
A-1 lockup 2.380 ISR
A-2 lockup 3.219 OSR
B-1 Diam 1.063"
B-2 Diam 1.125"
_____________________________________________________________
12" brake line GB1132 AS312 Papco
30" brake line GB1135 AS330 Papco
40" brake line GB1136 AS340 Papco
Differential Cover Gasket (square housing) GG0650-0 RDS 55323 Fel Pro
Diff Cover Gasket (octagon housing) GG0650 RDS 13073 Fel Pro)

Axle Bearing GB1001 RW207 CCRA BCA
Axle Flange Gaskets GG0600 n/a AGS
Park Brake Cable GB1114 370100 ABSCO

Brake Drum GB1120 857 ITT
Axle Stud CS1001 560-186 Papco

Brake Shoe Retainer GB1119 D7TZ2028B Ford
Pinion Seal GS1056 8181 NA National
Axle Seal (25 spline shaft drive) GS1052 3214 National have
Axle Seal (23 spline shaft drive) GS1050 3199 National
Park Brake Handle GB1100-0 30011810 Chevrolet
FLH Debris Guard LS1018 300026 Lehman
Sportster Debris Guard LS1017 n/a Lehman
Debris Guard Bracket LB1181 n/a Lehman


Speedi Sleeve
- all shaft drive GS1058 99181 National

Maybe parts:
Duralast Wheel Cylinder #33825 (Ford) 3/4" Dia
Duralast Brake Shoes #569 1994 Ford Ranger 2w

Hope it helps!

You might look for Lee H. Mann on this web site ..... he's an old time Lehman dealer. Send him a PM.

 

[harrywing]

A cornucopia of help

Thanks so much, as u know Lehman info is hard to come by especially parts.
Thanks again, Harry

 

[howardg]

You can use either of these NAPA numbersTS474 or UP474R. Raybestos number which is 474RP and aWagner number which is PAB474R

 

[harrywing]

Thanks Howard

Will also pas on if ever needed to.
Harry

 

[CrystalPistol]

Below is a copy of page from the 2003 book combined with my notes .... I forget which is which ... but your part numbers all look good. The brakes are Ford 9" diameter X 1-3/4 wide Ford drum brakes. Used on a huge variety of Fords from Pintos to Thunderbirds to Ranger PUs.

The wheel cylinders .... the Duralast 33825 is 3/4" diameter inside, but the ones that were on my '97 GL1500 / Lehman GTL solid axle that was triked in 1998 were 7/8" diameter when I measured them last year (I had one start leaking so I replaced both) so I used Wagner WCA79985 wheel cylinders. The larger diameter will increase braking effort slightly assuming same pressure applied at foot pedal, but they also result in slightly more pedal travel to apply. I think that maybe Lehman revised their choice to maybe shorten pedal travel after 1998 but before 2003. Either number will work .... or there is a very slight, almost non existent chance that mine were replaced with the larger ones between 1998 and 2004 .... but knowing the owner / builder / dealer and knowing him since 1998, he'd have R&R-ed with exact same WCs as come off.

… ETC …

Can't edit now. It should read "The larger diameter will increase braking pressure (how hard the shoes are pressed against the drum) slightly assuming same effort (call it "muscle power") applied at foot pedal, but they also result in slightly more pedal travel to apply." Just wanted to clear it up

Note: substituting smaller wheel cylinders will slightly pressure seen at the shoes assuming same effort applied at the pedal.

Carry on …. Merry Christmas!