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I have 2 vests one that I use when its over 100' in TEXAS. The heavy duty one is a STEELE which has pockets for frozen liquid. It last about 4 hours. It came with 8 packets I have an ice chest to carry the extra ones. Cost was about $120.00 on ebay last year. I also have a HD Hydration vest for days when its under 100' it last about the same time but of course it is not as cold.It cost $60.00 at the dealer or $45.00 on ebay. you can stop and wet it again along the way. It only works when it dry and when you are moving. Either one works to some degree IMOP. curley