bikerbillone
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Sure looking good with hard bags and top case improvement. 47 gallons storage capacity vs 41 on the 2019 and previous models. Some other improvements as well. I'm getting more interested.
2020 Spyder RT
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I still want to test ride one as some point. It does look interesting 
bikerbillone
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I find it odd how many on the TT FORUM 'are not' interested in the Canam Spyder. Start a thread here about the Spyder and it rapidly fades into the next page and disappears, just an observation, not a complaint. Here's a link if anyone's interested in reading a short and concise article about the 2020 model.....
https://www.cycleworld.com/2020-can-am-spyder-rt-and-rt-limited-first-look/
https://www.cycleworld.com/2020-can-am-spyder-rt-and-rt-limited-first-look/
bikerbillone
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Hmmm, quite possible, the Sling Shot is a good buy for sure. But wait, I don't see much about that either. :laugh:
Well, I switched from my conventional trike (after putting 30K miles on it) to a new 2017 F3 Ltd Spyder (have 25K on it now) and I am still pleased with the change. As I have mentioned before, my old trike was my Cadillac and my Spyder is my Corvette. After 50 yrs on bikes, I don't worry about what everyone thinks, I'm just proud to still be on the road!
Two wheel riders are slow to coming around to accepting the 3 wheel crowd, and especially the Spyder or Slingshot. They just don't consider them "motorcycles". Oh well, I am enjoying my extended time on the road that my 3 wheels have provided and continue to do so until I get that call from above that my time is up..........
Two wheel riders are slow to coming around to accepting the 3 wheel crowd, and especially the Spyder or Slingshot. They just don't consider them "motorcycles". Oh well, I am enjoying my extended time on the road that my 3 wheels have provided and continue to do so until I get that call from above that my time is up..........
Yeah - I know Bill seems more are on the SL forums.
I like that you only have to get handlebars versus the TRI Axis Bars which are way expensive for those wanting more comfort.
The adjustable floor boards,seat,rear trunk storage is a plus for me.
I like that you only have to get handlebars versus the TRI Axis Bars which are way expensive for those wanting more comfort.
The adjustable floor boards,seat,rear trunk storage is a plus for me.
I confess to being one but not because I don't consider them motorcycles. I just like leaning my bike over to turn. So I'm watching for improvements in Tilting Motor Works and others. Plus we currently have 2 Spyders now and have owned 3. So I'm fully aware of what they are. I think BRP is an idiot for not having a hand brake on their machines. They would get many more to convert if they did. I don't care that there is an available accessory. I've installed that on one. But the first thing a test rider does after accelerating is to hit the brakes and a hand brake not being there scares the snot out of them. So I'm not at all surprised they don't get many converts. I hate taking one of ours for a simple test ride after working on them because I know I'll look for that hand brake. It would be super simple for them to link the brakes and at that point I might actually consider one. But BRP has their head so far up their back end that they'll never do it. JMHO
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I agree with the hand brake, I suppose the Spyder riders get used to not having it and one 'adapts' to the machine. I also appreciate my simple riding pegs, but trike mutha enjoys his floor boards, so there ya go. I'm looking around for some dealer that will rent me an RT to ride for a couple days, but so far.....I can remember the day when the dealer would tell ya to take it home for a couple days, ride it, bring it back, but I fully understand why that doesn't happen anymore. I hear that Imotosports will rent, and they do have some good prices, but nothing like that near me. Now in the mix is the 2020 with the additional storage capacity that grabs my attention, if I do that, I lose the smooth, aerodynamic profile I like on the pre 2020. Life does get difficult with choices and decisions. Good to have this discussion on TT.
Having a hand brake would be nice it would not be a deal breaker for me. It does have to have the right ergonomics for me for long time in the saddle.
The handlebars could be removed easy for those needing more rise or pullback.
Yep floorboards can be adjusted. Its amazing how a basic thing can make you uncomfortable.
Seating area looks much better than prior units.
I always liked the rear trunk storage on the F3 and now on the new RT. I seen it a the motorcycle shows few years ago and was hoping they put it on the RT.
Now the video I seen, to remove the rear trunk is a turn knob in the middle to remove it if needed?
Last I would replace the windshield. But that is my preference I like mine taller and wider. I really like the F4 windshields.
The handlebars could be removed easy for those needing more rise or pullback.
Yep floorboards can be adjusted. Its amazing how a basic thing can make you uncomfortable.
Seating area looks much better than prior units.
I always liked the rear trunk storage on the F3 and now on the new RT. I seen it a the motorcycle shows few years ago and was hoping they put it on the RT.
Now the video I seen, to remove the rear trunk is a turn knob in the middle to remove it if needed?
Last I would replace the windshield. But that is my preference I like mine taller and wider. I really like the F4 windshields.
bikerbillone
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I'm thinking the 2020 would suck up more fuel, but that's the nature of the beast with the new configuration, but that a minor detail, if you can afford the Spyder, you can afford the fuel. Since the wife is with me pretty much all of the time on the trike the top case would remain in place, and I didn't see where the arm rests were accessories, if no arm rests, she ain't up for the 2020, that's for sure. Here's the thing, the more room there is on the scooter, the more stuff that will go on the scooter that's a given and a convenience, and a nice one on the long ride. I will continue to follow, there's sure plenty of time.
No, the hand brake is not a deal breaker for me either, I adapt just like I would adapt to the clutch. Heck, I reckon the wife could learn to drive this thing easy, on the long ride I could sit back and check out the scenery, maybe.
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Indeed Fuzzy, I'm aware you are totally hard core Harley and you explain why, makes sense to me. My friend in Sevierville TN is absolutely hard core Harley coming off a GW some years ago. There is probably nothing that would pull him off the Harley Trike now, coming off two wheels going to three because health issues. He finds faults, but he soldiers on with the Harley brand, smiling and feeling good because of the very things you have mentioned.
Well for me I was the diehard HArley fan and then decided I had enough with the parts issues and even after replacing them with the newest and latest design it still didnt work correctly.
So my dad had a Spyder and went to the dealer gave it a good test ride two up and ended up buying one..
Its like a cadillac for me unless something changes with the the quality and IRS and have no plans going back.
But I have been looking at the Vanderhalls and Slingshots recenlty. No hurry to jump on that bandwagon,but looking forward at retirement at some point I would want something long term and reliable/comfortable for long trips out of town.
The new Spyder really looks nice to me Time will tell :laugh:
So my dad had a Spyder and went to the dealer gave it a good test ride two up and ended up buying one..
Its like a cadillac for me unless something changes with the the quality and IRS and have no plans going back.
But I have been looking at the Vanderhalls and Slingshots recenlty. No hurry to jump on that bandwagon,but looking forward at retirement at some point I would want something long term and reliable/comfortable for long trips out of town.
The new Spyder really looks nice to me
Time will tell :laugh:
bikerbillone
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Been reading about the Vanderhall, think oldtom on the other forum got one, very neat looking piece of equipment, a bit pricey I think. SlingShot, getting in and out of that thing is a challenge, but for the price, a bargain.
They are all pricey..Vanderhall is about the same as a Slingshot.. Depending all the Do-Dads you want :laugh:.
I put about 40+ thousand miles on a Spyder.....Without ever having a problem with just a foot brake.....:Shrug:.....Yet with my Dodge Truck i still can't get used to the shift knob on the dashboard...:xzqxz:....:gah:..
You know I probably could not either :xzqxz: inkpachy:
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bikerbillone
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Always about the 'do dads' huh. Every single one adds a pocket full of $.
Yep got to have my Do - Dad's :yahoo: But as long as I am comfortable and know where I am driving I am all set. :banana-pair:
Bill there is a place in the Sevierville area that rents them.For me the reasons are numerous but i still give them a look and a sit when new ones come out.First and most important for me is with the wifes bad back she not ride anything with a single tire right under her period.As for the rest they have improved a bunch the past few years but the first ones had issues we heard about a bunch.Wait times of months for parts and high prices for starters.Then the big improvement of the 1300 engine was followed with the reports of heat high enough to in some cases melt the plastics.I think they have overcome alot of this but once a bad image is given it takes along time for it to go away.Plus 2 to 30 is hard enough for alot to do and they want it to resemble a motorcycle.Also these aren't small investments and swapping to something else as some of you know is quite expensive and when that swap is for something not tried and true thats a truely scary proposition.
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All you've said has a lot of merit, and as you've said, they have improved a lot since the big 'heating problem'. The price at around $31/32K for the RTL with all that I would need for two up touring is a daunting number, spending that kind of money, I do not want problems. One big thing as you also mentioned, is the maintenance and repair problem, the horror stories abound about getting parts, down time, repair techs that can't repair, believe me, I think about that. Trying not to pick on the Spyder, because other brands experience the same problems. I'm just not sure I'll be riding a Spyder, but it does grab my imagination seeing myself and the wife out on the tour on that thing, somehow it does capture my imagination. Next time I'm in Sevierville to visit my friend, I check out the dealer you mention and see if I can rent one. Thanks for the comment.
Truthfully if your gonna that different you better be good and for a company that big they just weren't in the beginning.I think they will continue to improve and grow in popularity.In time there voice will grow and it wont seem like they are being shunned.The shear amount of people on other bikes compared to the Spyder makes it appear that way and as their numbers go up that percentage will equalize some.
The 1330's do not have heat issue. :shok: I have no problem getting parts. I have ordered parts and received them within a week in not sooner.
The heat issues have been resolved with the upper air scoops kits, now this was on the 2013 models on down. May have only been 2011-2013 MY's.
The 1330 is one fine engine. Mine is in the range of 33K and others have a lot more for mileage.
I for one may not buy a new Spyder but a good low mileage 2020 at some point. If not, there's always a Slingshot or Vanderhall
Good Luck!
The heat issues have been resolved with the upper air scoops kits, now this was on the 2013 models on down. May have only been 2011-2013 MY's.
The 1330 is one fine engine. Mine is in the range of 33K and others have a lot more for mileage.
I for one may not buy a new Spyder but a good low mileage 2020 at some point. If not, there's always a Slingshot or Vanderhall
Good Luck!
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Always the good comment, mutha.
Pegasus1300
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The really bad heat problems were on the 2013 and BRP addressed that with some major body modifictions. I have a 2012 with 53,000+ miles on it with no heat problems and no other breakdowns. I would go anywhere on it and never worry. Parts have never been a problem,even when I broke a paddle shifter ( my fault) they had a new one in two days and fixed in four. It is smooth, quiet, comfortable, and fun. What more could you ask for. And Bill, with new 2020 now hitting the showrooms, there are some really good deals out there on leftover 2018 and 2019s. If you keep worrying about what might happen, you'll never get one. Ride more worry less.
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