Who has replaced their REAR tires??

[cjmitch]

MT comes with Goodrich Ta's
What did your trike come with, and what do you reccomend as replacements?

 

[ben721364]

MT comes with Goodrich Ta's
What did your trike come with, and what do you reccomend as replacements?

The brand/model/load rating designation is not important. I suggest that you look for an asymmetrical open tread design to keep down tire noise and evacuate water while riding in the rain. If you ride aggressively, a softer tread compound is also a good idea. I do not recommend a tire that is wider or taller than that specified by the trike manufacturer.

 

[grayowl]

The brand/model/load rating designation is not important. I suggest that you look for an asymmetrical open tread design to keep down tire noise and evacuate water while riding in the rain. If you ride aggressively, a softer tread compound is also a good idea. I do not recommend a tire that is wider or taller than that specified by the trike manufacturer.

Good points. However, for noobies like me who couldn't tell an asymmetrical open tread from a baseball, could you give some examples of what you're referring to (pictures would be nice)?

Thanks from a new trikie.

 

[ben721364]

Good points. However, for noobies like me who couldn't tell an asymmetrical open tread from a baseball, could you give some examples of what you're referring to (pictures would be nice)?

Thanks from a new trikie.

An asymmetrical tire has one side of the tread designed (sculpted0 to be on the outside to combat tread noise with the other side sculpted to extract water. I suggest that you go to your favorite passenger tire store and ask to see some of them that are available in the size your trike is equipped with. I suggest that you not let the tire salesman try to sell you tires that are wider than what you have for two reasons. (1) you will likely have a clearance problem and, (2) you wouldn't like them if caught in the rain at speed. The tire company offerings change every few months so any research I might do would likely be out of date instantly.

Have fun shopping.

 

[1550vt]

I recently changed my rears. They were not worn out...I just got tired of looking at them. The thing had some 245/60R's on it and it and they worked better as a water-ski than a tire in heavy rain and it took all day and a bag full of tricks to get them out from under the fender. I think that tire is too wide and changed to a 205/65R, which is the stock TG tire (15-inch wheel). I used a tire recommended by my tire-guy. They were fairly economical, quite and are simply passenger car tires. AND....I can yank them off without letting all the air out. I also changed my gearing a bit due to reducing the diameter just a tad. The trike is basically 1/2-or-less the weight of a small vehicle and I don't think one has to get too exotic. I certainly don't mean the remarks above concerning the asymmetrical design are exotic. I don't know the difference either.

 

[Yellow Trike]

I went with Uniroyal Tiger Paw CTS....I wanted the raised white letters. Same size as the factory installed.

 

[Tango]

Good points. However, for noobies like me who couldn't tell an asymmetrical open tread from a baseball, could you give some examples of what you're referring to (pictures would be nice)?

Thanks from a new trikie.

Look at Goodyear "Triple - Tred". Awesome tire. Tom

 

[ben721364]

I went with Uniroyal Tiger Paw CTS....I wanted the raised white letters. Same size as the factory installed.

Do the raised white letters make the trike faster?

 

[John Luciano]

I have to check the Tiger Paws CTS in my size 145 55 16 I love the raise letter faster or not. I agree round tires and inexpensive work also. We don't need $200 Hi performance tires on the back of the trike , they will not make you corner better or stop faster. noise and Hydroplane is about the only worry.

 

[BlueTrinity]

Do the raised white letters make the trike faster?

Absolutely, Ben. I’m surprised you had to ask.

The raised letters create a more formed and smoother wording surface that lowers the drag coefficient of each tire and creating a vortex of air emanating from each. Two or more vortices that are approximately parallel and circulating in the same direction will quickly merge to form a single vortex. The circulation of the merged vortex will equal the sum of the circulations of the constituent vortices. The resulting stabilizing downforce will increase traction, thus increasing speed.

This is the same positive effect on power and speed that is also created by the addition of chrome covering on engine components and the strategic placement of LED lighting products.

As dealers and aftermarket houses have been telling us for years, the more you spend the better and faster it will run.

Hope that helps.

 

[firebreath]

ROFLMAO!!! :laugh: :yourock:

 

[ben721364]

Now I understand. Thanks very much!:no::goodjob:

Absolutely, Ben. I’m surprised you had to ask.

The raised letters create a more formed and smoother wording surface that lowers the drag coefficient of each tire and creating a vortex of air emanating from each. Two or more vortices that are approximately parallel and circulating in the same direction will quickly merge to form a single vortex. The circulation of the merged vortex will equal the sum of the circulations of the constituent vortices. The resulting stabilizing downforce will increase traction, thus increasing speed.

This is the same positive effect on power and speed that is also created by the addition of chrome covering on engine components and the strategic placement of LED lighting products.

As dealers and aftermarket houses have been telling us for years, the more you spend the better and faster it will run.

Hope that helps.

 

[BenO]

All this knowledge available and insight is what makes a site stand out over the others. It’s a good thing Everyone don’t post too many pictures, then I would be able to read and my head would blow, too much input…

 

[Ozarkryder]

Absolutely, Ben. I’m surprised you had to ask.

The raised letters create a more formed and smoother wording surface that lowers the drag coefficient of each tire and creating a vortex of air emanating from each. Two or more vortices that are approximately parallel and circulating in the same direction will quickly merge to form a single vortex. The circulation of the merged vortex will equal the sum of the circulations of the constituent vortices. The resulting stabilizing downforce will increase traction, thus increasing speed.

Hope that helps.

I am in complete agreement, with this one caveat: Mount the raised white letters on the inside.

The tires should be mounted to put the raised smooth lettering on the inside due to the vorticies created by the non-aerodynamic underside of the trike. (The effect is lessened, but not eliminated with the use of a "belly pan") The vorticies create a non-linear chaotic airflow, thus slowing the air under the vehicle and creating a raise in air pressure. Bernoulli's Principle would imply the opposite effect is desireable. The smoothing of the airflow by mounting the raised letters inside and creating the effect cited in the former post allows the air to flow faster, creating a lower pressure area under the trike, in consequence creating downforce, effectively increasing the the coefficient of friction (traction).
*Note that this was used to good effect in Formula 1 cars a number of years ago (before a rules change) where the downforce created by the aerodynamics at speed under the car was more than the static car weight. With this much downforce the cars could theoretically race inverted.

As most tires have raised white letters on one side only, mount them in. If you are fortunate you'll locate tires with raised letters on both sides, adding the two effects together, producing a very speedy trike indeed.

 

[Boscoporp]

I have heard that the Michelin Hydro-edge makes a great set of rain tires for the back of a trike. Is anyone running them that could give us some imput?

 

[Scalp Hunter]

I have heard that the Michelin Hydro-edge makes a great set of rain tires for the back of a trike. Is anyone running them that could give us some imput?

Boscoporp:
I believe that Commanche replaced his with these. You might want to ask him what he thinks about them.

John

 

[ben721364]

I have heard that the Michelin Hydro-edge makes a great set of rain tires for the back of a trike. Is anyone running them that could give us some imput?

I know folks who run the Michelin Hydroedge on trikes and report good results. I think that the critical point is the open tread design which facilitates evacuating water from the tread area. (Hydroplaning is a major hazard for trikes.)

There are several other passenger car (summer) tire with treads that should be more or less equal to the Hydroedge for trike fitment and some of them are considerably less expensive.. As an aside, I discourage fitting wider tires than the kit manufacturer specified, also because of the hydroplaning hazard.

 

[jim peacock]

My 06 lehman kit on a 96 1500 came with cooper lifeliners m+s,seem to be wearing good and quiet plus no hydroplaing and I have driven in some heavey rains.
:yes::yes::yes:

 

[Comanche]

I have heard that the Michelin Hydro-edge makes a great set of rain tires for the back of a trike. Is anyone running them that could give us some imput?

Put them on a couple of months ago. Today, it was raining hard and had to splash through a few puddles. There was absolutely no hydroplaning on the wet streets and a very quiet ride when the streets are dry at highway speeds. George Patrick recommended these to me and I have been very pleased.

I have the MPA reversed on my front tire and this combination makes for a very nice ride. Great traction and they are really quiet.

 

[JD..Stanley]

I had to replace both rear tires at my expense because the right side spring Broke and the suspension dropped down at 50 mph.
Champion refused to pay for new tires; and it was their product and engineering that allowed the spring on my IRS to break into two pieces.

 

[Tango]

I had to replace both rear tires at my expense because the right side spring Broke and the suspension dropped down at 50 mph.
Champion refused to pay for new tires; and it was their product and engineering that allowed the spring on my IRS to break into two pieces.

Just wondering if you consulted a lawyer? Especially with a known defect in their design with the IRS..... Tom :Flag:

 

[Konrad]

Just wondering if you consulted a lawyer? Especially with a known defect in their design with the IRS..... Tom :Flag:

If there was no personal injury you would want a lawyer who does products-liability work. The problem is the result would be only the cost of a couple of tires and no lawyer could afford to take that case unless it were pro bono.

It might be beneficial to find a local consumer advocate who could make enough noise to cost the manufacturer some embarrassment and probable loss of sales. They don't want that and might settle with the injured party.

 

[Lucky]

Maybe with all the Champion kits that are owned by Trike Talk members we could call DO,WE.Cheatum and HOW and start a CLASS ACTION SUITE.But we need to first find out how many have had this problem first I guess.

 

[Konrad]

Maybe with all the Champion kits that are owned by Trike Talk members we could call DO,WE.Cheatum and HOW and start a CLASS ACTION SUITE.But we need to first find out how many have had this problem first I guess.

Seems to me that the ethical thing to do would be to pay for collateral damage caused by a failed warranted part. But most of the warranties are written to cover the failed part only - which is usually far less than the collateral damage.

 

[skuuter]

My 2010 Gold Wing motor Trike came with the Goodrich TA Rear Tires....They have 15,000+ miles on them now, and no issues of any kind. I've been perfectly happy with, Traction (Wet & Dry), Road Noise, etc. .....unless something changes, I will most likely go back with the same thing when that time comes.....ThumbUp

 

[grumpy]

I have General Altimax RT on my Valkyrie Triwing trike. 21,000 miles, 2/32" tread used, asymmetrical tread patter, no hydroplaning, good handling on the twisties wet or dry, even seemed to be pretty good traction on the snow/ice I got into this fall, but that was VERY slow and VERY brief. I think they were under $100 each.