Harley Davidson suspends production/delivery of the Livewire

[MDO]

HD suspended production and delivery of the Livewire due to problems with the charging system.

 

[peteg59]

[h=1]Harley-Davidson LiveWire electric motorcycle production stopped over unknown problem[/h]

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The company is tight-lipped about what's gone wrong.​

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• By
  
• Sean Szymkowski
  
  
  

October 14, 2019 2:21 PM PDT​

Something, somewhere is giving Harley-Davidson engineers and executives a real headache. Production of the motorcycle maker's first electric motorbike the LiveWire, meant to guide the way for the company's future, has come to a halt.Reuters first reported on the Harley-Davidson LiveWire production stoppage on Monday, citing a "nonstandard condition" in the electric motorcycle and a problem in final quality checks.A statement from a Harley-Davidson spokesperson said that the problem requires more testing and analysis, but the company did not provide specifics around what the "nonstandard condition" might be. For now, production and deliveries have ceased, though the company assured those who've taken delivery of a LiveWire that the motorcycle is A-OK to ride."As usual, we're keeping high quality as our top priority," the spokesperson said.The LiveWire was meant to kick off a new chapter at Harley-Davidson as it looks to

attract a new generation of motorcycle riders as its aging buyers begin to retire from the two-wheeled life. With plenty of tech, 105 horsepower and honest good looks, the LiveWire checks a lot of boxes. In our first ride, after a long time from concept to production, Editor-in-Chief Tim Stevens found the electric Harley was well worth the wait.Despite a push for new rides, Reuters additionally reported that the majority of LiveWire orders are from existing Harley-Davidson owners. At $29,799, the LiveWire is eye-wateringly expensive for a motorcycle.

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[MDO]

Sales for the Livewire have been very slow, but they never expected to sell a lot anyway.

 

[Jack Klarich]

Another big OOPS moment for HD, with sales slipping they sure did not need news like this

 

[peteg59]

Too many non motorcycle riding executives making poor decisions at the top @ HD.

Where the hell is/was Willie-G when they needed him???

 

[rhino 2]

Harley-Davidson LiveWire electric motorcycle production stopped over unknown problem

The company is tight-lipped about what's gone wrong.

• By
  
• Sean Szymkowski
  

October 14, 2019 2:21 PM PDT​

Something, somewhere is giving Harley-Davidson engineers and executives a real headache. Production of the motorcycle maker's first electric motorbike the LiveWire, meant to guide the way for the company's future, has come to a halt.Reuters first reported on the Harley-Davidson LiveWire production stoppage on Monday, citing a "nonstandard condition" in the electric motorcycle and a problem in final quality checks.A statement from a Harley-Davidson spokesperson said that the problem requires more testing and analysis, but the company did not provide specifics around what the "nonstandard condition" might be. For now, production and deliveries have ceased, though the company assured those who've taken delivery of a LiveWire that the motorcycle is A-OK to ride."As usual, we're keeping high quality as our top priority," the spokesperson said.The LiveWire was meant to kick off a new chapter at Harley-Davidson as it looks to



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Interesting ,.....They stopped production.....Stopped deliveries they don't know or won't tell what's the problem is....But be assured if you are one of the lucky ones who took delivery of one....Don't worry they are ''A-OK'' to ride.....:xzqxz:......

 

[Jack Klarich]

Wondering if there is about to be a recall for the ones already out in the public?

I smell a rat in the MOCO once again in a hurry to market

 

[peteg59]

Interesting ,.....They stopped production.....Stopped deliveries they don't know or won't tell what's the problem is....But be assured if you are one of the lucky ones who took delivery of one....Don't worry they are ''A-OK'' to ride.....:xzqxz:......

Doesn't really give one a warm fuzzy feeling to any potentially unlucky suckers, er owners of this scoot...

 

[BillR]

It's probably electron migration from the flux capacitor.

 

[Sidecarbill]

Probably not a good product for Harley to sell. Since the thump thump crowd has kept them in the dark ages forever.

 

[MDO]

HD stated again today that they are ok to ride, BUT you need to charge them at a HD dealership.:xzqxz:

The group running public relations for HD truly needs to go back to school & this time, take notes!

 

[trike lady]

It's only my opinion but I believe an electric motorcycle is not the way to go, they need to hire this guy he has the right idea. This might be a better seller.:rofl:

I'd like at least a 10 speed gear set.

 

[Jack Klarich]

HD stated again today that they are ok to ride, BUT you need to charge them at a HD dealership.:xzqxz:

The group running public relations for HD truly needs to go back to school & this time, take notes!

So much for being user friendly

What does HD have as far as charging station that no one else has?

HMMMMMMMMM

I smell a rat

 

[rhino 2]

So much for being user friendly

What does HD have as far as charging station that no one else has?

HMMMMMMMMM

I smell a rat

While its charging they will have a minimum wage employee standing by on fire watch:blowup:

 

[MDO]

So much for being user friendly

What does HD have as far as charging station that no one else has?

HMMMMMMMMM

I smell a rat

I thought the dealers had rapid charging stations. I would think lower voltage 120vac at home would be safer. There has to be more to this, your right Jack.

 

[Texan]

Saw them at Sturgis, out at the Full Throttle, and was NOT impressed at all. In talking to the engineer about the lack of range, 70 miles, and charging time it would take me over a month to get to Sturgis from Texas. NOT ME!!

And this charging situation is something he wouldn't discuss openly. BUT did ask me how far it was to my local HD dealership. I kinda told a litttle white lie and said about 70 miles. I ask him if I went to the dealership would that automatically put it on the charger so I could get home. And would that cosst HD (hundred dollars) for the charge. Another engineer came over and rescued him.

Take a look at top mangement at HD now.....all x-Ford people. Just saying.

8~\o

 

[MDO]

So much for being user friendly

What does HD have as far as charging station that no one else has?

HMMMMMMMMM

I smell a rat

Their chargers are 1 hour rapid chargers...at home with 120vac it's 10 hours.

 

[peteg59]

Wonder if the MOCO would sell their super 1 hour chargers to buyers of their livewire to get sales going again???:Shrug:

Not many folks will go for a 100 mile charge/ride radius, as that would only cover a 50 mile ride from home base before needing to head home for a recharge.

Kinda does sound like a rush to market, as the range really sux for a $29K price tag...

 

[1dn5up]

Give me that good ole Gasolinea ........

 

[consitter]

It's probably electron migration from the flux capacitor.

:laugh:

 

[bikerbillone]

Too many non motorcycle riding executives making poor decisions at the top @ HD.

Where the hell is/was Willie-G when they needed him???

All true, who makes these foolish decisions, HD must have money to burn, and they do. This is so outside the box for HD. What they have is something they can put in the HD history building. Trying not to beat up on Harley, maybe I'm just not very smart and I don't understand it.

 

[rhino 2]

All true, who makes these foolish decisions, HD must have money to burn, and they do. This is so outside the box for HD. What they have is something they can put in the HD history building. Trying not to beat up on Harley, maybe I'm just not very smart and I don't understand it.

They are grasping at straws right now.....There putting too much time and $Money$ into stuff thats out of their wheelhouse.....Instead they are rushing out product before its ready, Then what the hey, We'll just let the buyers do the research and development for us on their dime...

 

[bikerbillone]

Willie G took his money and ran for the exit, ya think he saw the electric m/c on the drawing board?

 

[MDO]

The MoCo today stated that it was a level 1 charging issue, which is the low voltage charging that you do at home for 10-12 hours.

The dealers have level 2 charging, which will give it an 80% charge in 1 hour.

If I had purchased a $30,000 motorcycle & couldn't use it, after crying & screaming, I would be calling a lawyer.

 

[MDO]

Here's an update...

HD now says they have resumed deliveries & production & the problem was isolated to...

A single vehicle!

 

[Jack Klarich]

Here's an update...

HD now says they have resumed deliveries & production & the problem was isolated to...

A single vehicle!

I call BS on HD confirming this

 

[MDO]

I call BS on HD confirming this

Who in their right mind would shut down a production line after discovering a problem with a single bike.

Your right Jack, this whole thing doesn't pass the smell test.

 

[Jack Klarich]

Who in their right mind would shut down a production line after discovering a problem with a single bike.

Your right Jack, this whole thing doesn't pass the smell test.

It is funny in a way, back before AMF owned HD it was common practice to ship bikes with known problems and let the dealers worry about the bikes

Prior to that HD had an internal shop off the assembly line nick named Harley Hospital

 

[DblTrbl]

I think I'll take some of my orange extension cords and put black stripes on them and sell as an accessory for this new bike..:clapping: